This refers to the reinstatement of Christina Liew as the Deputy Chairman of Sabah PKR recently. Prior to this, in late October, she resigned from her position as a Supreme Council member, to show support for her political boss Dr Jeffrey Kitingan who also at the same time resigned from his posts as the PKR Vice President and as Supreme Council member.
In fact, many Sabah PKR members and supporters just can’t be bothered with their resignations. They in fact thought that it was good ridden and good for Sabah PKR.
But, what many can’t stomach and found it repulsive was when Christina dragged her own mother into the fray, by claiming that she (Christina’s mother) “had to take the public humiliation” of her (Christina) being replaced (by Datuk Kong Hong Ming) for unknown reason. This was stated in her SMS sent to PKR President, Datin Seri Dr Wan Azizah while tendering her resignation. Those who knew Wan Azizah well would agree that she’s such a motherly figure and Christina’s mentioning of her mother could have struck the soft spot in Wan Azizah’s heart.
Many Sabah PKR members and supporters thought Christina had stoop too low by dragging her mother into the fray, which is clearly making use of her (mother) as a ‘leverage’ to coerce the party leadership to reinstate her as the Deputy Chairman, which she succeeded. No politician worth his or her salt would do that.
If Christina is truly a leader like what she claimed, she should look beyond position in serving the party and the people, instead of fiercely fighting for it at all cost, even if it means pushing her own mother out to the forefront of the battlefield. If she could do that, just imagine what would happen if she were to hold important position in the government one day.
Christina must also realize that in politics, no one is indispensable or non-replaceable. Leaders come and go but party’s struggles will continue, with or without her around. Perhaps Christina should also look at her own track records in the past elections – “zero winning”.
I also know for a fact that like her political boss, Dr Jeffrey, if she leaves the party today, more people would come forward to join the party through her division. I'm pretty sure it was a slap on her face recently,when Dr.Chong En Leong from the Kota Kinabalu division, handed over new membership forms to Dato'Seri Anwar Ibrahim during the recent PKR convention held on the 20th.December.2009.
In a related development,I ask several PKR Division Chiefs,why have they been silent and what their thoughts were in as far as Jeffery Kitingan and Christina Liew is concerned? From the more "brave ones",they strongly felt dumbfounded with the events that has taken place and bemoaned over the decision of the national leadership,while some thought it to be a cultural shock,politically speaking.Is politics really beyond the rule of logic and reasoning,said one particular division chief.
While I personally commend their braveness in highlighting their feelings,I certainly can't say the same to the more selfish and position power crazy division leaders,who preferred to remain silent.
Anyway, since Christina is now reinstated, many Sabah PKR members and supporters hence would like to know whether her mother is really happy now?
With that said, I wish both Christina & her mom a Happy New Year 2010.
I remember reading about Christina using her mother in the newspapers.Shame on you Christina Liew,how can you use such a cheap trick in your political agenda?
ReplyDeleteIf you think you have political merit,then stand on your own feet,don't use your mother for just to get what you want.
Auntie Agnes.
Christina has no political style,let alone the ability to win in an election.I have high respect for women politicians,in particular Datin Seri Wan Azizah.She is a model for all women aspiring to venture into politics.
ReplyDeleteChristina,well she's just a passing politician,all withered up and should call it a day.I fully support PKR,but with politicians such as Christina,the party may loose with such people in it.
KK voter.
RK, congrat to you for yet another entertaining and thought-provoking piece.
ReplyDeleteYou've again nailed the coffin on the right spot by exposing dubious character like Christina Liew who has no qualms of using her own mother as the 'prop' to carry out her Oscar award winning performance to win sympathy & support & ultimately her political agenda.
She has literally pawned if not sold her own mother. If she can do this to her own mother, she can also do the same to the party and her supporters.
With leader like her still lingering around and holding top position in party, all i can say is good luck to PKR.
We do not wish to see another traitor like the shameless former DAP rep, Hee Yit Fung who caused the collapse of the Pakatan state government in Perak.
Hardcore PKR supporter
Kota Kinabalu
Christina and Jeffery should be out of PKR and do not tarnish the name of the party in view of the impending snap polls..
ReplyDeleteThese two will only be a "kacau daun" in the coming polls..If these two so called PKR stalwart are really sincere in their struggles for the party they should not have created such a big mess. Now what they are in or out of the party??
Apa ini sampai mama pun disangut paut,for all you know mama pun tidak tahu politik...
If these two are still in PKR I would rather vote for BN in the next poll.
Saya sudah menyatakan pendirian saya dengan tegas dan berani mempersoalkan keputusan DSAI mengembalikan kedudukan DJK dan CL dalam PKR, tapi saya yakin bahawa DSAI lebih kenal DJK dan CL dari Kita yang hanya penyokong, ahli-ahli PKR serta MPN PKR Sabah sebab itu berlaku demikian. Saya berseru kepada Datuk Jeffery dan C. Liew jangan permainkan kedudukan mereka yang telah dikembalikan oleh DSAI kepada mereka, sebabnya hari inipun ramai penyokong dan ahli-ahli PKR Sabah keciwa dengan permainan mereka, jika DJK dan CL benar-benar mahu berjuang dalam PKR berjuanglah secara ikhlas dan jujur tanpa mengira kedudukan dalam pimpinan parti sebab tanpa ada keudukan tertinggi dalam partipun kita masih boleh menyumbang dalam perjuangan parti tak perlu jawatan sebagai Pengerusi atau Timbalan Pengerusi dan sebagainya.
ReplyDeleteUncle Sam
People who had the misfortune of working with Christina would certainly know what kind a person Christina really is. Behind those big smiles, good dress-up, fancy hat and media publicity of service to the people and fighter image, Christina is entirely a different personality. She is definitely not the person that she wanted you to believe to be. Many of her followers found out the truth the painful way. I am one of those who, to my misery and misfortune, once believed she was a true leader. Christina knew how to make use of the newspapers and few reporters portraying that she was a politician fighting for a cause. She had a cause, no doubt about it. But, it was all very cheap publicity stunts. Christina never had any intention to help any people but what she wanted was just cheap publicity. She would never see any problem to the end. She would disappear after the media reports. She would not do anything to help anyone without publicity value. That is why her service centre at Damai was shut down the day after Datuk Anwar Inbrahim declared its opening ceremony. Now, only PKR signbord is still hanging there. You are in for a big shock if only you know what is going on inside her service centre. Christina never believed in giving free service anyway. Since Berjaya day through PBS government to BN rule, she had a unique reputation in getting what she wanted in contracts. Say no more. Christina never survived any competition in politics. She had to play the dominant and lone ranger role or it is me or nothing style. PKR Sabah had not grown even in chinese areas during the helm when she was a deputy chief for years. In fact, not only her own KK division never got off the ground, all other chinese areas such as Sandakan and Tawau were not even at infant stage on the eve of the last general election. Christina preferred it that way. She wanted to make herself indispensable. She cannot accept any competition. That was why she always ended up political loser in Berjaya, PBS, MCA. Christina is simply not a team player. She is simply selfish and it is herself for everything at all costs including pushing her mom to fend her off. All other leaders especially chinese leaders are threat to her survival in politics. What happened to the tai chi class that she promised Azmin Ali tai chi will be daily affair from the day Azmin Ali officiated it near Damai Community Centre in his first visit to KK after being appointed as Sabah Chief. I can only say with Christina as new PKR deputy state chief, good luck to PKR Sabah. For me, I thought I could return to PKR to earn my place, especially having seen the success of the PKR convention on 20th december. I thought PKR was really moving on now. I am glad I did not make the move. I think I have something better to do rather getting myself into muddy water again.
ReplyDeleteChristina Liew attacked PKR and leadership for weeks just becasue she was dropped as deputy chief. She was the one who wanted to dissolve the KK cabang. Like many other PKR supporters, I am shocked and just could not understand why she was promoted to become sabah deputy chief after what she had done to destroy PKR Sabah. May be onlt Anwar Ibrahim can explain. Meanwhile, I just wonder what kind of party PKR is? Why such a national party claiming to be number 2 in Malaysia did not have the will power to do what is politically correct and reasonable?
ReplyDeleteCristina has been taking a free ride during all party election post,since she has the president support .Let's find out how she'll fare in this year's divisional election .
ReplyDeleteShe might just take her mother on a roller coaster ride in 2010.
Kanul.
If PKR is ever to make any headway in Sabah,Christina and Jeffery must be shown the exit door NOW.We don't need parasites like them around.Both of them have tainted intentions and we the people will not support PKR as long as they are still around.
ReplyDeletePeople Power.
With Jeffrey Kitingan and Christina Liew around, PKR Sabah will stand still if not becoming obsolete.
ReplyDeleteThey were given enough opportunity and if they could not perform for the past many years, they are not going to do it in the years to come.
Another sad episode and the beginning of the end of PKR Sabah after a good recovery from the casualty of the last general election until the return of Jeffrey Kitigan and Christina Liew.
ReplyDeleteAs for PKR leaders like Kong Hong Ming, Roland Chia, Chong Eng Leong, my advice to them is to join DAP to continue the agenda of Pakatan Rakyat.
Can you trust a politician like Christina Liew who had betrayed her own party PKR condemned their leadership such as Anwar Ibrahim as racist and dictator and Sabah State Chief as proxy because she was not given the deputy chief post.
ReplyDeleteJust imagine if she was an elected assemblyperson. I am sure Christina can be another DAP state assemblywoman (whose name not worth mentioning) who betrayed DAP to become independant causing the collapse and downfall of PR Perak state government.
Sabahan have seen enough of who and what is really Christina Liew. She has killed her own political future. For PKR to put her as PKR candidate in the next general election is surely another disastrous choice for PKR and PR.
Ronnie, may be you should know this if you want to survive. Christina Liew has 'open' secret weapons, if not smiling, she will be crying. Either tactic worked in her favour most of the times especially at PKR top leadership.
ReplyDeleteIt goes to show just how much the top leadership really know about Sabah and Sabah politics.
Thanks to this blog,Christina and the rest of the state pkr leaders can no longer hide or bullshit us.We have been provided a new lease,a new window of opportunity to voice our frustration and disappointment,something unheard of before.
ReplyDeleteThe current state pkr chief Ahmad Thamrin is also a stooge of Jeffery and Christina.How did DSAI make such a blunder in appointing him in the first place.Thamrin's so-called dubious advisor Aziz Hamid and pea brain political secretary Richard Jayasuria are all in cahoots with jeff and christina.
I feel so sorry for pkr sabah,where is the promised vision.With tainted people like this,I better stay at home.Keep up the good work yang saya muliakan saudara Ronnie,I rather read your blog and listen to your speeches from the heart,then waste my time with this bunch of crooks.
Disillusioned PKR Supporter.
Muak saya baca komen2 kamurang...semua cakap CL dan DJ sudah tidak penting dalam perjuangan PKR.
ReplyDeleteBagi tahu saya apakah PERJUANGAN PKR SABAH?
ReDBull
With this 2 clowns (J&C) In PKR? I'll vote for BN in the next election!
ReplyDeleteRonnie, I just wonder whether your work and comments in this blog, which directly and indirectly attck PKR and their leaders, can strengthen or destroy PKR Sabah? If it is the latter, wouldn't that reduce and lower you and your friends to the level of Jeffrey Kitingan and Christina Liew.
ReplyDeleteThe truth must be told and everybody must know. What Ronnie has done is right by telling the real thing not trying to pretend and hide the dirty laundry in the closet...PKR Sabah is doomed with the two clowns taken back...
ReplyDeleteI will vote for BN in the next GE if this shit is still going on in PKR!!
Kudos to you Ronnie for exposing Christina,she's not worth 2 cents in politics.I've work with Christina for several years and your description of her is totally true.She cares two hoods on the feelings of her division members,let alone the people of Kota Kinabalu.Only an idiot will follow her and even that idiot will be sacrifice just to get what she wants.
ReplyDeleteShe actually wanted to dissolve the KK division when she resign as the Supreme Council member,fortunately the committee were brave enough to stop her,so I've heard.
What was her motive in wanting to dissolve the KK division,to move them to another political party?We are shock that she has been retain and promoted to being the Deputy Chairperson of the state PKR.We love PKR and honestly believe that PKR will be able to form the next government.But with hypocrites like Christina still around..PKR will be history.
Lawan Tetap Lawan.
Change is coming and all those who had done the bad things will be gone soon, look who had died.... one by one...just watch...I do not want to wish bad things to the unjust but let God take care of them...the Lord is just......Forgive them for their ignorance...
ReplyDeleteThis cry baby no leadership quality Christina is an embarrassment to PKR and an insult to the residents of Kota Kinabalu.
ReplyDeleteAnwar Ibrahim should get a wake up call with this posting,unless he is still under the impression that all's well and great in PKR Sabah.
Wake up for heaven's sake Anwar,there's an abundant amount of good leaders in Sabah,you only need to open your eyes,but STOP listening to leaders who have hidden agendas.
I fully concur with Ronnie's call to the young generation to rise NOW,and take your place in mainstream politics.Your time has come.
Justice Pao.
Aya why this Christina and Jeffery want to kacau kacaulah. So greedy for power ah?
ReplyDeleteLook in the mirror first and see whether both are qualified or good enough to lead Sabah PKR...there are so many young leaders and very capable but not use by PKR, why???
or maybe all the capable ones are already in BN?
Using her mother as "The" reason for resigning is a lamb excuse and this clearly shows that her "My Baby Daughter" childish characteristic.
ReplyDeleteAs politicians we are the statesmen or the stateswomen for the people, for the state, because our voice bring changes, our voice bring action into it so therefore it creates transformation in peoples' life. Politicians do not sulk and hide behind their mothers as pacifier, like little baby when it cries the only thing that can stop the baby from crying is the "NENEN" of a caring and a loving mother.
For anyone who studied psychology especially in the characteristic of what we called a "Spoiled Brat" their mothers would be the number one pacifier.
Now is this what an evolutionary characteristic of a leader of this new
year? If she is crying in times of insecurity knocks in? Cried again when she gets confused, she cried when she felt being threaten, and cried again when someone took something away from her and calling Ma ma ma ma!!!!
This person will also insecure in nature, she needs to be in her best at all times and expect approval and recognition from everybody. Those that can not give her the praises (or agree with her) will be the first to be chopped off from her friendship list (i don't friend you anymore!), you take the focus of approval and recognition away from her, she gets really confused, angry and she will do anything to fix it at all cost. Failure knocks in - where is mother?
We need statesmen and stateswomen to head our state, our nation. We do not want babies that sulks at times of troubles.
A leader needs to lead the people, but if a child is leading you? Where are you heading? To the Lolly-pop stores, and do anything as long as she is happy, even willing to play with lolly-pops as pacifier?
Grow up
To the concern Anon Jan 2, 2010 2:34 am
ReplyDeletewrote:
"Ronnie, I just wonder whether your work and comments in this blog, which directly and indirectly attck PKR and their leaders, can strengthen or destroy PKR Sabah? If it is the latter, wouldn't that reduce and lower you and your friends to the level of Jeffrey Kitingan and Christina Liew"
A statesman speaks what is needed for the good of the people. If we are covering the characteristic and the true nature of the person and put added make up and cloth them nice just to make them good would not make a good leader too. If you love to be this party with bunch of these people stay on... because we need a true statesmen and stateswomen...
Reserve your opinion to yourself if you think that Sabahans can be bull shit by these
hypocrite leaders.
I am a fan of DSAI, but because of Christina Liew, I have never and will never vote for PKR. I have no respect for this character! I am utterly disgusted by her rude manner and supposedly humor. My encounters with her were never pleasant. Few year ago, I was having lunch with my husband at a hotel's cafe when we saw her, having lunch with her "husband" and daughter. Seeing my husband & I approaching, she jolted out of her sit and shouted loudly; "hey! you are his 2nd wife right?" and started to laugh like a hyena!, while everyone around were giving me some dirty looks.Then she turned to me and said "joking la, I do this all the time". She seems to enjoy hurting people's feeling. She can't stand to see others having a wholesome family while she failed hers. There were many other incidents, when we saw her screaming at and ordering around those who volunteer to work for the party (mostly men). She is really good at making use of people for her own agenda; especially when pushing people around in organizing & selling charity dinner tickets. At the end of the day, she'll be the one taking all the credits and forget those who really slogged. (to her,they are merely her Ma-Chai). In fact all she does was to dress up like a butterfly and leterary "fly" around the dinner function, showing off to DSAI of how clever she was... Well, I just hope for those who still slave around her now would wake up and leave her to lick her own wounds that she has inflicted for herself!
ReplyDeleteLet the truth be known, if not for the presence of DJK & CL, there would not have been PKR Sabah. For that, I am very grateful. However, also a known fact, with the presence of these two, PKR has never won an election and sad to say, never will. Therefore, if I were them, I would bow out gracefully and allow new blood to take their places. Professionals, with new ideas and dreams for the future. Sabahans have suffered for 47 years under the pretences of BN/UMNO rule promising us a better future. UMNO has absolutely NO interest in our future. They are only interested in our natural resources and whatever they can get from our people. What they did was to slowly take control of our beloved state by allowing foreigners to enter and giving them citizenship so that today, the original population of Sabahans are totally outnumbered. You don't have to look far. Just look at the Borneo Post Newspaper frontpage today (2nd January, 2009)!... New Year born babies .... a photo taken at the Likas QEH. Don't all the mothers look like foreigners? Not surprising! And these babies will be given a Sabah Birth Certifcate and later a NRIC with full bumiputra status! Yes, scary isn't it? Sabahans please wake up!!! Not too long from now, these foreigners will be taking control of our government and soon Sabahans will be made foreigners in their own land. Is it too late? I hope not! We have maybe 5 to 10 years the most to take appropriate action to save ourselves from being stateless. We must reverse this reckless act of UMNO before its too late! I call on DJK & CL to do the right thing if they really care for our people. What you are doing is totally selfish and any delay may spell disaster to our people's very future. DSAI should really look into the matter urgently because I know how the majority of Sabahans feel. Replace your entire lineup with a new set of professionals as your leaders in Sabah and you will see a huge number of new memberships piling up. Sabahans are just waiting for your next daring move!
ReplyDeleteCongrulation to anon jan 2, 2010 909 am. a real classic and accurate description of CL. I had helped her for many years in PKR. When she wanted my help, she would be so sweet and nice to the extent of pretending she was so stupid and naive and I was the only smart guy she had around. But after my mission was accommplished, I could never get her in her handphone as if I did not exist at all until another political function was coming her way. I feel like as if I was just a tool to her when my help was needed or dirt to her when I was not needed. But I just wanted to be a part of the PKR and to help the party. Most PKR members in KK division knew why she lost the last state election, simply because, greedy, selfish and arrogant. Chritina Liew will lose more votes if she is again selected as PKR candidate for KK in the coming. This time, even PKR hardcore will make sure she is not elected. We believe she will do anything to get what she wants.
ReplyDeleteAllahma, you guys gave the impression that PKR especially PKR Sabah and their leaders are absolutely worthless and useless. Where are the good leaders in PKR?
ReplyDeleteAccording to Ronnie and friends, John sibing or Jeffry Yap or Hj Awang Bakar or Ronnie are good. Why not them to lead PKR Sabah to greater height?
Please do something more now.
Where are the good leaders????
i wish all of you a happy new year to the commentators in putt for a change and not to our christina liew and her beloved/behated mother. that also goes for our unlearned ghaparin.
ReplyDeletei set the record straight. i do not follow nor make amends to the political abridges, be it overtones, be it undertones. shoving aside its political concomitant in sabah reflects how many people just hates christina liew and her political boss, ghaparin kitingan. now, i am not going to use the name jeffrey because that name is sacred! it belongs to my cousin. to thin matters and making it worst, politics is not about ideas of invoking mothers/fathers whom are frail in bed. hence, it would be a good idea that one would just refer to the dichotomy of his/her political ideas vide some crucial elements of his/her beliefs. nevertheless, it would be outright stupid for someone whom is famous for selling off fish in an open market to be reinstated. it would be shameful for the umbrella of PKR to wrongfully/undesirably accept the imposition/reappointment of both these traitors. i am mindful that i am using strong words here and nevertheless, its evident that certain parties out there using PKR and a shelter to allow them to curtail their further political vendettas and so forth.
always remember - the growth is slow but the decay is rapid
-OETTINGER-
It is good that PKR national leaders are to elected by all members of PKR under the new party constitution. Let s see how many from Sabah are going to vote for Christina Liew and Jeffrey Kitingan in the coming party election. But then again, party members of the West Malaysian states may not know the true colour of CL and JK. Just wonder how Christina can be a national leader when she could not even convene enough forum to her own KK divisional meeting. I know that her last divisional meeting was attended by only three AJK, that is, including Christina. She could not even send any KK division delegate to the recent PKR convention.
ReplyDeleteAisay man! Why so much Character assassination of JK and CL ? RK is attempting to tarnish their reputation but evidently not saying that there are much better PKR leaders then these 2 fellas. At least for now 2 is better than none...they should continue to pursue their political agenda.
ReplyDeletewell done ronnie, write more articles like this...we love to see pkr ppl fighting among themselves while bn busy implementing the rmk10 this year. nice nice
ReplyDeleteRonnie, dig into SLDB files and find out how Christina n Mohd Lan tried to extract rm6 MILLION by preparing a board paper for approval of payment when the claim was time barred. Mohd Lan was not picked as a candidate again for that plot but Christina was...Now she gets rewarded for whacking anwar, azizah and PKR with the deputy PPN post.May God bless PKR.
ReplyDeleteMany people have had been the victims of Christina Liew. I have nothing against her personally, although many people told me how she had treated them unfairly and worst "She had treated me like rubbish and worthless!" one people told me. I do not know her that well to be honest but her leadership and quick change of mind that concern me, and if she continue to be in PKR? that is trouble.
ReplyDeleteYa screaming and crying is in fact her best weapon, pleading sympathy from people around her. She is the best con-artist, ya she did laugh like hyena!!!! walauwee.... if she does that even the reporters that were interviewing her will look at each other with great concern. Her speech... she has this strange pitch that people can only do but looking at each other with a frown in their faces?
Well as KK voters, my advice to Christina is enough is enough, resigned now from your post in PKR, these people are coming in and exposing you even to who's bedrooms have you entered. The only way for them to stop is for you to make your final word of good bye...
You are still one of the best lawyers around so you can easily cari makan from your practice.
Stop these nonsense, lets unite Sabahan because the GE13 is just around the corner.
ReplyDeleteDear Anon Jan 2nd..8.09pm,
ReplyDeleteDon't be confused.Understand the difference between HOUSE CLEANING and character assassination,and RK is doing a damn good job.The people now know the true colours of Jeff and Christina.You obviously don't understand the difference.Even a dog will not bite it's master,but will be prepared to run away when it does decide to do so.
Barisan reformasi sabah.
Saudara Ronnie,once again you amazed everyone.Your posting has proven beyond reasonable doubt your distinction in being a fair and creditable blogger.You truly deserve to be accorded Sabah's number 1 blogger.Politicians from both sides of the divide have been check mated by your blunt,truthful,yet daring approach in your blog.
ReplyDeleteYou have truly earned your place as a defender of Sabahans,anyone who can't see this must be senile.I'm not shoe polishing Ronnie at all,as I'm an UMNO member.But it's important that due credit must be given.Jeffery and Christina are liabilities to PKR,and no political party in Sabah will accept them.Their days in politics are over,and Ronnie's house cleaning exercise in PKR Sabah is worrying UMNO/BN.I'm convince UMNO/BN will still win the next general elections in Sabah,hopefully we can pull Ronnie on our side,a true asset.
AJK Bahagian Kota Kinabalu
UMNO.
Saudara AJK UMNO Bahagian KK,
ReplyDeleteYou are probably the last of the mohicans among the better one's in UMNO KK.We salute you for your honesty,but don't be too sure of UMNO's victory in the 13th GE.I'm sure Ronnie is impressed with your "genuine" salutation,which is by the way all true.May the best party win....BARISAN NATIONAL VS PAKATAN RAKYAT.
Tetapi kami ingin menegaskan disini,jikalau Jeffery dan Christina masih dalam parti dan di calonkan,PKR akan KABUT.Harap maklum.
Barisan reformasi sabah.
Hello fellow followers of my favorite blogger.I've been away for some time resting after having gone through a by-pass in KL.I miss a lot during my absence and it took me almost 3 hours to read all the postings.
ReplyDeleteReading the last two postings has given me an itch on my chest and I hope it's not a bad sign.For haven's sake Jeffery and Christina,get the hell out of PKR before I die of a heart attack.I have told you before my old friend Jeff,retire lah.The people don't want you anymore.
Uncle Lim.
This is far too much for most PKR supporters like me. Yes i understand that housing cleaning exercise is important and fundamental to ensure PKR is fit and thin. No extra baggage.
ReplyDeleteI know Christina has always been like that and in fact many people are not comfortable with her. As for Dr. Jeffery well he is a known fact that any parties that he ever joined faced trouble. I still remember during PBS time what he did and i am sure most PBS leaders than were happy when he finally decided to jump with the rest.
But the bottom line is, Is DSAI knows about what we are all war up here?
I still believe that everybody in PKR now is important to ensure that the Scale is being tilted out, but if there is kutu dalam selimut, i can not afford to burnt mine for these two. Like Sun Tzu strategy recommendation these two must be killed. These are the two "dayangs" that looks pretty and standing at the front line, influencing and preventing the true leaders and fighters to surface.
If I were her. I wouldn't drag my mother in to this. Shame on her.
ReplyDeleteThey quit and move back. Now it is said that PKR members are embarking on a bulk migration towards UMNO. Their jumping here and there is making me have second thoughts of giving my support.
ReplyDeleteMr Ronnie, I would like to know your views on this party hopping scenario.
Dear Christina, aren't you old enough to fend for yourself.
ReplyDeleteI think there is nothing wrong exposing the bad side of the party. The voters needs to know what they're getting for voting them.
ReplyDeleteI don't know about this thing but I hope someone will love to let me know.:)
ReplyDeleteI am not follow all story about jeffry and christina. I only can say if people still put their trust in you, well you still can be in this political stage.
ReplyDeleteRonnie and Ronnie's cohorts in this blog of hatred, you are barking a wrong tree. Your vernomous attacks on Christina and Jeffrey is unwarranted. They have not committed any wrong and sinful act to warrant such ferocious attacks. These two did not authorise the use of C4 to vanish an innocent lady from the face of this earth. They did not suck Billions from Sabah for themselves or for the benefits of only the Malayans people at the expense of the Sabahans.
ReplyDeleteAnd for Uncle Lim, why don't you ask Anwar and Karpal Singh to retire? They are also old!
PKR Sabah divisions will be having their Annual General Meeting come February 2010.Christina will surely be trying her last chance to retain her position as division chief.As usual she will come with a crying face,sympathetic and begging everyone to give her another chance.She'll be promising you the moon just to get elected back again,and start her bloody nonsense all over again.
ReplyDeleteChristina has done to much damage in our KK division,I know this for a fact after working with her for 3 years.For the future of our people and party,I hope our members in KK will not be cheated by her anymore.We have good leaders around,let us kick her out once and for all.She is a witch and will always remain a witch.We love PKR and will not give Christina the chance to destroy our party.
AJK Bahagian
I salute you Mr.Ronnie this is what the reform agenda and change is all about.You are the icon of change and reforms in Sabah.
ReplyDeleteI bet her mom is really happy now.She's getting her throne back.LOL!Wish you luck,Chris.
ReplyDeleteIf she promised us the moon. We will make sure she really gave it to us before voting her.
ReplyDeleteUncle Lim,
ReplyDeleteI hope that your wishes will be granted coz JK and CL are here to STAY!!!!Ha...Ha...Good Riddance!!
That one comment saying Christina Liew is one of the best lawyers is truly and really an insult to all the good lawyers in town.
ReplyDeletePlease please, whoever you may be, go to the court and see it for yourself how CL perform in court, if you are lucky enough to see her open her mouth in court.
Gossshhhh... what the hell you are talking about, best lawyer, eeeryak...
I am shock in disbelief that there is not even a single comment here that speaks highly of Christina.She must really be a pain in the ass,which undeniably is true to the core.
ReplyDeleteHaving study law with her,she was never the likable person at all.What puzzles me is she has never change,and what's worst is she is now in a party that professes CHANGE.I'm glad that we've distant ourselves,but feel sorry for Sabahans who have to deal with a wicked,self center and selfish witch who only cares for herself.
From my fellow friends of mine in Sabah in the legal fraternity,who don't think very highly of her,her practice is highly questionable from the complains of her clients.I'm surprise she has not been disbarred.Kudos to the blogmaster,you have the respect of fellow lawyers,politicians and your lovely Sabahans.
Rule of Law.
You people in PKR should try to unite now instead of creating more discord and infighting and Jeffery and Christina should call it a day and stop destrying the chances for PKR to capture Sabah in the next GE..The GE is just around the corner and PKR is still unable to reconcile the fighting factions and before you all know the poll is already here. Then what, ayam terlepas tangan bau tahilah!!!...
ReplyDeleteJeffery and Christina should "bertolak ansurlah" for the sake of the party not be greedy!!
Actually we should not be too hard on jeffery and christina,they have serve the party well for better or for worst.It is the members that should be blamed for electing them.They took full advantage of their elected post and now you people are paying the price.
ReplyDeleteKick them out once and for all at your next party election,regroup with your new elected leaders stand as one and prepare yourself for the next election and then kick UMNO out for good.If that can be the plan,then PKR will have the chance to form the next government,if not sayonara PKR.
Being logical.
If I were like her, I wouldn't drag my own mother as a political tool..That would backfire on me..
ReplyDeleteLooks like 2010 political game is ON...
ReplyDeleteGood, now can't wait to see who will win the game..
I have nothing against her, personally. But, whoever that gets in the way of change and progress should go.
ReplyDeleteRonnie
ReplyDeleteIn the convention we sit and laugh together. But your blog tell otherwise.
You know talam dua muka..Thats u Ronnie
Christina should be awarded Drama Queen for her performance in this political drama. Afterall, this is what politicians do best. Create drama and accomplishing nothing. Sometimes you will even find them entertaining.
ReplyDeleteChirstina Liew being one of the best lawyers in town...
ReplyDeleteMy statement with regards to she being one of the best laywers in town, was purely by observation and hearing from her that she was busy busy busy with cases....
If you go to her office she is busy busy.... so a layman like me... think bagus pula dia ni... mesti pun one of the best lawyer in town..
Thanks for whoever you are for shedding the light into this.
CL said...
ReplyDeleteRonnie
In the convention we sit and laugh together. But your blog tell otherwise.
You know talam dua muka..Thats u Ronnie
January 4, 2010 5:11 PM
erm, who is the talam muka dua here now? you as the commentator or ronnie charles klassen is the talam muka dua?
-OETTINGER-
Well, at least we know that CL is actually reading our comments. CL, have u noticed that some of these comments are from people who knows u personally, has worked with you and some have even been to your office? Wake up Christina! It is not only RK alone here, but the people of Sabah don't want you anymore! so why show up (with JK) in such thick skin at RK's event in Lido on the Dec/09 uninvited? You should be grateful that RK, being a polite gentlemen has at least showed good manner while siting next to you at the convention! You have scored 0 win in all your political life, so what makes you think that you can win in the next GE?
ReplyDeleteTo CL's good lawyer commentator, you are absolutely correct correct. I am supposed to be CL's close aid within PKR (of course, now I realized I was merely a convenient tool when needed), I had too many many of these busy busy busy with cases and cases excuses and excuses all the times or no response from her handphone at all until the next PKR function. That is her wayang.
ReplyDeleteTalk about talam dua muka, Christina Liew is number one master. She could give you a really big, broad and gergeous smile you could imagine on a good day as if she is just an innocent sweetie giving you the impressiion that she would do anything for you, anything at all. But on another day, you were just transparent to her as if you were dirt. And of course, you know exactly which is her real feeling about you unless you are an 100% idiot. And that is talam dua muka of the highest degree from Christina. I am not the only one who have this experience with her.
ReplyDeleteAiyo....CL don't bullshit here with your sob stories,talam dua muka.Ronnie has more charisma,style and a gentleman that what you claim.As one of the delegate at the convention,Ronnie was never seated beside you as you alleged.He was seated next to YB Tian Chua.We have the photographs to prove that,or where you actually hoping,praying and dreaming you sat beside him?Stand in line Christina Liew,many Sabahans would like to sit beside Ronnie.
ReplyDeleteAJK Bahagian Penampang.
After years of knowing & working very closely with her (not worth mentioning her name even), i have come to a conclusion that she's a fake, con artist, a BN mole, a political wh***. That's why she has no qualm of using her own mother as a leverage to achieve her political gain.
ReplyDeleteThe reason why i said she's a BN mole/agent is because I knew for a fact that she sponsored the independent candidate who was closely affiliated to Yee Moh Chai for Luyang constituency in the last GE. I also know for a fact that someone is keeping the evidence.
The subsequent election petition filed by her against Yee was just a drama to pull the wool over the public's eyes that she has got nothing to do with Yee. There were rumours that she had been compromised. The weakest link that allowed this to happen was during the votes counting. The opposition should demand for CCTV to be installed at the counting centres in the coming GE to prevent what i call the "ultimate votes buying".
Sabah PKR members should also demand her to open up the books to show the accounts of all expenses spent on party functions and all the monies raised in her so-called fund-raising for charity under the HOPE Foundation.
I really regretted for having helped her in the past to achieve her dubious schemes believing that she's really fighting for the people.
Ex-Close Aide
Hey Christina, you are not only talam muka dua, but also tebal muka! You only dreaming that RK will laugh together with you, but for all you know he might be just laughing AT YOU!
ReplyDeleteIs there anyone out there or PKR member or leader other than AJK KK Division or her victims who had the honourable occassion of having a coffee or a meal or chat with the beloved PKR leader Christina Liew on a social basis (other than expecting a favour from you or being used by her as a tool, so to speak, then you are a victim)? Not that we really wanted the coffee or meal or a chat with her.
ReplyDeleteJust name me one or may be two??? Anyone out there, Hello... Hello...
That is the kind of great leader PKR has. Ronnie, please do the counting.
Ronnie and anon,
ReplyDeletePerhaps, you guys may be wrong. Christina Liew's PKR service centre near to Damai Community Centre was having light on and door opened until late night almost every night. Some activities are definitely going on inside. Please check it out for sure.
this is a cheap trick by a cheap lawyer. malayan law journals started in 1932, current law journal started off in the early 80's. now, as i flip through the pages of mlj starting in the mid 70's till current, i do not even see christina's name reported in cases as acting solicitor or as a party made to suits. so, its my foot that she is a good lawyer. a good lawyer will definitely stick to her principles, having her thoughts to be extremely crystal clear and as a matter of fact, sticking to her idealistic ideas/ideology at the end of the day. the morality of a person that sticks strongly and firmly to principles would be able to put the party together, and not breaking the party up into bits and pieces.
ReplyDeletedo you know why people are simply sick and tired of politics in sabah, especially with pkr? its because we do not have enough honest politicians in pkr in sabah, especially this lady and some of the rest in pkr. believe me, some were from usno, umno and berjaya government. i am not saying that they are not trustworthy but these people ought to find out for themselves and asking themselves why did the join pkr in the first place. was it for the money or was it from the glamour or was it to serve people? here, i do not think that having ronnie charles klassen around would be a threat at all to the party, so much so that this man comes in clean. haphazardly and sad to say, he is an honest man, not because that i know him but its because of the fundamentals he believes in. yes, many would say good many will not do anything, but this good man has done so much. thank you. kotohuadan!
coming from across the seas, he has lived there for so many years, being more sabahan than any other sabahans. i see that in him, i see that in his heart and i see that in his eyes. whoever wishes to comment against him, i know him better. thank you so much for your cybertrooping ideas posted in here. i wish to state one thing. he does this for 2 things - justice and god. too bad that some people cannot accept that bloody fact that he is a guy that speaks for a tooth for a tooth, an eye for an eye and a nose for a nose. it would be pretty awkward to say that he is a talam muka dua as i can see the love flowing out from him for the people, championing rights for the locals and indigenous people in sabah. i know where i am coming from. so, to all those out there trying to talk rubbish to him, stop talking bullshit. am i too vulgar enough to express myself? darn outright silly isn't it?
politics is all about acts, not words. its premature when someone speaks but no action comes out of that politician. its all about the act of the person getting together to build a new scape, a newer place for people to be happier, not so much of putting and placing monies into the pockets of his own. in short, as what i see that is coming from some snakes, its called political betrayal. and i mean betrayal! and its big time!
my answer is very simple. pkr in sabah still has a chance and a strong one indeed. voices are still heard, noise making sessions are still going on and on and on and whoever does not take heed to an answer to make a change in the state, might as well just close shop. we should be giving ourselves the outright ultimatum to deliver the best for the state, not so much of several of these idiots but for the sake of the party to ensure that the party does well and good for the state in time to come.
are we game and are you with me? =)
-OETTINGER-
I'm sad that there are people just talk politics for the sake of talking politics by not understanding of what they are talking about?
ReplyDelete"Talam Dua Muka" means you are smart but evil when you are a politician. A smart politician stayed longer in their political career for eg., Datuk Pairin, Datuk Musa Aman, Tan Sri Bernard Dompok, Datuk Joseph Kurup and other while a hero politician like the late Tun Fuad Stephens, the late Datuk Peter Mojuntin and others, their political career short-lived and their life too, you know what I mean.
Ok..ok..la..I lied ok...I never sit next to Ronnie. He sombong bah...Ok..la ..I surrender and see u all make me cry again.
ReplyDeleteeverybody should now focussed on preparing for the next GE..strenghten the party grassroots, logistic etc...
ReplyDeletestop all the "blaming" and "hatred" game...
all of you is just going to give the BN/UMNO another free win....
show us YOUR worth and credibility this coming GE
How to strengthen the party grassroots with people like Jeffery and Christina always try to spoil the game for their own advantage and interest? Of course with what is going on in PKR, BN is going for another big win in the next poll...even in Semenanjung...lokk what is happening to DAP, PAS and PKR..all having their own agenda!!
ReplyDeleteSusahlah brother!!
CL Jan 5,2010 6.34AM
ReplyDeleteStop bluffing.You are not even Christina.Don't simply use others' name.
hello! she is not christina bah! look at the sentence she formed or created. do you expect that sentence constructed by a top lawyer from sabah? she would look stupid by promulgating that sort of statement. and that means her english is below par and not up to mark!
ReplyDeletemy toes are laughing now!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!
-OETTINGER-
CL, the only way you could stop all these is to step down.Take our advise and back out gracefully before all your inner ugliness is exposed.
ReplyDeleteStop sounding like a baby sulking and crying for spill milk!
What ever said and done, 2 names will not affect the PKR masses in M'sia and their victory in the next GE. The "mudah lupa" syndrome will prevail and UMMMMMM....NOOOOOOOO!! will be the biggest LOOOOOOOOOOSers!!!!!!
ReplyDeleteUrang Kita.
Good....bring all the dirt out. Everybody has dirty linen stuck somewhere so don't be overconfident that these will not be found and exposed. Who is so perfect among us? We are not God, so don't play God with others please.Just share with the voters what are your plans for them and see if they give their votes to PKR. They want an alternative to BN/Umno and they are already a few in Sabah (not just PKR) so don't brag about yourself. Just show them ur offer and they will give their verdict.
ReplyDeletelet me dedicate a song to CL and JK. hahahahahaha
ReplyDeleteNothing lived, nothing grew
Till I loved you
Every sky ever gray, never blue
You were my friend, good friend
And sometimes I would wonder
Could the one to save me
Possibly be you?
I was lost, I was blind
Till I loved you
Wouldn't see, couldn't find someone new
You were my friend, dear friend
I held you close to my heart
But I never thought that I'd feel the way I do
Until that certain moment when I loved you
And now I can't ever imagine
My living without you
It seems I spend all of my time
Thinking only about you
Once I dreamed in a dream I would find you
Never thought that the dream would come true
Until that curtain lifted, parted, drifted from you
Until that certain moment when I loved you
Until that certain moment
Certain moment when I loved you
When I loved you
Nothing lived, nothing grew
Till I loved you
Every sky ever gray, never blue
Empty days, empty nights
Sometimes I wonder
Could the one to save me possibly be you?
Ooooohh I was lost, I was blind till I found you
Couldn't see, couldn't find someone new
You came along, stole my heart completely
And I thought, could the one to save me possibly be you?
-OETTINGER-
Actually I am Cevin Lim (CL), I am a Sarawakian.
ReplyDeleteIn the last GE I campaigned for a BN (UPKO) candidate who won handsomely. However,I have begun to warmup to PKR for what it stands for. Infact,I'm ready to submit my membership application together with a number of my friends. However, with all this infighting I'm having a second thought.As I see it PKR will defeat itself in the next GE.
ReplyDeleteChris,how was your mum already? I bet she burst into tears right now.Congrats.You got your name back.*hug*
ReplyDeleteI am really sick of the attitudes by those peoples who thought that Ronnie write for the sakes of PKR. If he (Ronnie) love Pkr, then he should heeds the call by DSAI to reconcile and fight to topples the BN government. I believe Ronnie & his group have a hidden agenda and motive just like the Malay Proverbs ADA UDANG DI SEBALIK BATU.
ReplyDeleteTo Anon January 10, 2010 6:51AM
ReplyDeleteYes! Every one know that their agenda is to safe PKR Sabah.
Only the ignorant you, who are hidden behind CL & JK doestn't see the light! WAKE UP! PKR Sabah is a gone case as long as CL & JK is in it! Get it?
Ahhhh...Why is PKR members argues with each other? One backstabbing the other..Urghs..No wonder I hate politics..
ReplyDeleteWow, Christina's a bad girl for doing this. Pushing your own mum out to face humiliation? Bad moves Christina, bad one....
ReplyDeleteDrag your own mom out for your own political advantage?
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